XBox 360 Speak!

[PuNk! ™]

I was wondering, is anyone looking forward to any upcoming Xbox 360 games coming out soon? Before you all say; MW3! Yes, I'm looking forward to this too, but what other good games are coming out soon you can't wait to get your hands on?

I think GOW3 is meant to epic, it is the finale of the trilogy after all.

I've heard a lot about Deus Ex that's coming out soon (or is already out in some places) and I remember these games from the PS2, but never really enjoyed them. Besides, it looks too matrix-like?

Rage looks incredibly like Fallout 3 and Borderlands. Could be a good mix?

Can't think of any others of the top of my head right now, most I have my eyes set on are coming out next year I think... Urgh!
~Danny

[SGT. Mark Singleton]

Battlefield 3

~Adam

[Heiko Alkema]

In order of release date: Battlefield 3, ES V: Skyrim, and Mass Effect 3.

My feelings about CoD in a nut shell.

[Christopher J. D'Dario]

MW3, GoW3, Mass Effect 3, Dead Space 3, Fear 3 (already out just got to get it), ummm.... That's all I can think of.

-=[iSeeJay]=-

[PuNk! ™]

I'm surprised you guys are looking forward to Battlefield 3. I thought the last two were big let-downs. Storyline sucks massive balls and the online play is good, but to be honest, very arcade-ish and I was mega disappointed Battlefield 2 wasn't that much better than Battlefield (1).

God knows, Battlefield 3 is going to be another disappointment.
~Danny

[Heiko Alkema]

Jul 25, 2011 22:27:50 GMT PuNk! ™ said:

I'm surprised you guys are looking forward to Battlefield 3. I thought the last two were big let-downs. Storyline sucks massive balls and the online play is good, but to be honest, very arcade-ish and I was mega disappointed Battlefield 2 wasn't that much better than Battlefield (1).

God knows, Battlefield 3 is going to be another disappointment.
~Danny

First, I think you're confusing the Battlefield: Bad Company spin-offs with the mainline Battlefield games (1942, Vietnam, 2, 2142) as the latter has been PC exclusive until this upcoming installment.

Second, I lol'd hard at your implication that the Call of Duty games haven't become the epitome of "arcade-ish" with it's shoebox size maps and the almost total irrelevance of teamwork in the online play, even in the objective-based game modes.

But, different strokes for different folks.

[PuNk! ™]

Jul 25, 2011 23:17:22 GMT Heiko Alkema said:

Jul 25, 2011 22:27:50 GMT PuNk! ™ said:

I'm surprised you guys are looking forward to Battlefield 3. I thought the last two were big let-downs. Storyline sucks massive balls and the online play is good, but to be honest, very arcade-ish and I was mega disappointed Battlefield 2 wasn't that much better than Battlefield (1).

God knows, Battlefield 3 is going to be another disappointment.
~Danny

First, I think you're confusing the Battlefield: Bad Company spin-offs with the mainline Battlefield games (1942, Vietnam, 2, 2142) as the latter has been PC exclusive until this upcoming installment.

Second, I lol'd hard at your implication that the Call of Duty games haven't become the epitome of "arcade-ish" with it's shoebox size maps and the almost total irrelevance of teamwork in the online play, even in the objective-based game modes.

But, different strokes for different folks.

The thread is titled "Xbox 360 Speak!", so yes I'm talking about the Bad Company spin-offs, which have been completely and utterly crap in my opinion. PC Battlefield versions however (1943/Vietnam/etc), are much better.

As for Call of Duty, their maps aren't as big as Battlefield (both Xbox version and certainly PC), but when you start talking about total irrelevance of teamwork - dude - make some friends will you?

When you start playing Call of Duty with friends, it's probably the best strategic FPS out there for dozens of reasons. Yeah it doesn't have engineers, medics and blah blah blah (earlier versions did however, I miss them), but you get a good team of friends and Call of Duty is the best thing since sliced bread.

But, different strokes for different folks.
~Danny

[Mac Bargett]

Far Cry 3, Battlefield 3, and Batman: Arkham City, although I haven't played the first one, yet..

[Heiko Alkema]

Jul 25, 2011 23:26:26 GMT PuNk! ™ said:

The thread is titled "Xbox 360 Speak!", so yes I'm talking about the Bad Company spin-offs, which have been completely and utterly crap in my opinion. PC Battlefield versions however (1943/Vietnam/etc), are much better.

As for Call of Duty, their maps aren't as big as Battlefield (both Xbox version and certainly PC), but when you start talking about total irrelevance of teamwork - dude - make some friends will you?

When you start playing Call of Duty with friends, it's probably the best strategic FPS out there for dozens of reasons. Yeah it doesn't have engineers, medics and blah blah blah (earlier versions did however, I miss them), but you get a good team of friends and Call of Duty is the best thing since sliced bread.

But, different strokes for different folks.
~Danny

I know this is an Xbox Speak thread. Battlefield 3 for the Xbox is going to be a direct port of the PC version making it relevant to our conversation.

Now, CoD only starts to even gain the slightest semblance of teamwork if and when you play with friends, like you said. However, with the Battlefield games, even the lesser Bad Company games, it's required even when pubbing. And the best part is it just happens naturally, organically, while playing even when with complete strangers. If it doesn't happen then your team gets absolutely trashed. For me, that is the mark of excellent game design.

This just doesn't happen in CoD, and never has, unless you go out of your way to add it in yourself via playing with friends as the design makes it generally unnecessary.

This bit is just me nitpicking, but CoD has never had classes, unless the console-exculsive 3 did. Only one I never played.

Jul 25, 2011 23:36:11 GMT Mac Bargett said:

Far Cry 3, Battlefield 3, and Batman: Arkham City, although I haven't played the first one, yet..

You definitely should. Easily one of the best games of this console cycle.

[∬: Erik Schneider]

I love you Heiko Weiko.

[PuNk! ™]

Jul 25, 2011 23:50:37 GMT Heiko Alkema said:

Jul 25, 2011 23:26:26 GMT PuNk! ™ said:

The thread is titled "Xbox 360 Speak!", so yes I'm talking about the Bad Company spin-offs, which have been completely and utterly crap in my opinion. PC Battlefield versions however (1943/Vietnam/etc), are much better.

As for Call of Duty, their maps aren't as big as Battlefield (both Xbox version and certainly PC), but when you start talking about total irrelevance of teamwork - dude - make some friends will you?

When you start playing Call of Duty with friends, it's probably the best strategic FPS out there for dozens of reasons. Yeah it doesn't have engineers, medics and blah blah blah (earlier versions did however, I miss them), but you get a good team of friends and Call of Duty is the best thing since sliced bread.

But, different strokes for different folks.
~Danny

I know this is an Xbox Speak thread. Battlefield 3 for the Xbox is going to be a direct port of the PC version making it relevant to our conversation.

Now, CoD only starts to even gain the slightest semblance of teamwork if and when you play with friends, like you said. However, with the Battlefield games, even the lesser Bad Company games, it's required even when pubbing. And the best part is it just happens naturally, organically, while playing even when with complete strangers. If it doesn't happen then your team gets absolutely trashed. For me, that is the mark of excellent game design.

This just doesn't happen in CoD, and never has, unless you go out of your way to add it in yourself via playing with friends as the design makes it generally unnecessary.

This bit is just me nitpicking, but CoD has never had classes, unless the console-exculsive 3 did. Only one I never played.

Jul 25, 2011 23:36:11 GMT Mac Bargett said:

Far Cry 3, Battlefield 3, and Batman: Arkham City, although I haven't played the first one, yet..

You definitely should. Easily one of the best games of this console cycle.

To be fair, yes Battlefield has classes and that does make online play more interesting, but the Xbox "Bad Company" versions were just horrendous in my opinion. I guess I was anticipating something along the lines of the PC versions, even the mini-arcade Battlefield game was better thinking about it, because I knew to expect arcade quality and it delivered beyond that. The actual games themselves just felt, weird.

I'm assuming you're saying that Battlefield 3 is a completely different entity compared to "Bad Company" right? If so, then no I didn't know that and if it is a completely different story and so forth, then it stands a chance at redemption. I love Battlefield on the PC, but on the Xbox it was just a huge let down.

I agree with the team work aspect too, COD does require communication to get anything feeling team worthy, but COD 3 did have classes and I really do miss that in the franchise and yes, this makes the game naturally team worthy and fluent when playing.

Still... I am a big fan of COD because I was hooked early on and they have disappointed me too in the past, but always made up for themselves. Battlefield hasn't done this yet and the Bad Company series have been terrible so far.If you say Battlefield 3 is going to be a non-spinner then great, I'll buy it.

~Danny

[∬: Erik Schneider]

Well, I'd say that the Battlefield series probably comes off better on the PC than the console because they have always been more focused on making their games for the PC rather than the console. As Heiko said, only BC and BC2 have been made for the console in the series. In fact, Bad Company was the first one they made for the console and was not even for the PC so that may explain why it wasn't quite up to par with the now COD giant. After two games, they've probably improved the console-side of their games so it might be worth a shot.

And then of course CoD would appear better on the console these days, because after vCoD, UO, and CoD2 they became much more focused on the console than the PC.

Also, yeah BF3 will have a totally different storyline then the BC games. Instead of fighting the Ruskies like in BC and BC2, it'll go back to BF2 and the forces will be NATO against MEC (Middle Eastern Coalition). Personally, I thought BC2 had a pretty good storyline and liked the characters. You don't need nukes everywhere, controversial civilian slayings, and your main characters getting killed every 5 minutes to make a good storyline.

Hell, I remember in vCoD (back when you didn't have to be some superhero saving the world) playing one of the best SP campaigns I had every played at that age. Dropping into Normandy alone, meeting up and attacking St. Mere Eglise, holding the town, making a getaway in a jeep to make contact and get reinforcements, blowing up a dam, rescuing Price, etc.

And the reason the BC games may have come off as bad to you, especially on the console, is the fact that they were just being used to test out storyline, console gameplay, and the Frostbite engine for the first time. Also, the BC games have been much more infantry-based with smaller maps than in the core BF games. Now that they've developed a pretty good MP game on the console (BC2), or at least garnered a bit of support from console gamers, they're coming out with another continuation in the BF series which has always proven to be great games on the PC but not so much the console.

[Mac Bargett]

Jul 25, 2011 23:50:37 GMT Heiko Alkema said:

You definitely should. Easily one of the best games of this console cycle.

Yeah, it's in my queue, but I've organized it by year and is currently playing The Godfather: Blackhand Edition, so I have a bit until I get to Arkham.

Also, I'm pretty sure I remember Battlefield 2 on the first Xbox.

That would be Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, a gimped version for the consoles. Similar situation to Call of Duty 2 and Call of Duty 2: Big Red One in that it has the name in there but isn't the same game.

[Wilhelm Schlegal]

MW3, NHL 12, and Assassins Creed Revelations. Those are the only games I'm willing to spend 60 bucks on, unless I find that Battlefield 3 is going to live up to the hype, then I'll buy that as well.

[Edward"Butcher"McMillan]

Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3, Ghost Recon Future Soldier, Operation Flashpoint: Red River (already out, but I don't have it yet) and POSSIBLY MW3.

I'll join in this big debate between CoD and Battlefield

The big reason I prefer (on console) the Battlefield games over the CoD games is actually for a few reasons. CoD is like laser tag, you point you shoot, they get hit. In battlefield there is actually travel time for your bullets, so you have to lead a moving target and if it is over a long distance you have to compensate for bullet drop, these things require a bit more skill and patience than CoD. The teamwork thing with classes has already been covered, but in CoD it is too easy to become a "One man army" so to speak, where as Battlefield does require a bit of teamwork. Battlefield has vehicles for use at all times and CoD just has kill streaks. Battlefield has destructible terrain, CoD doesn't. CoD does have much better servers though, by FAAAR. In CoD you can also go prone, but they will be adding that to Battlefield 3. And yeah, Battlefield has larger maps, course if CoD had vehicles all the time, their maps would probably be larger as well.

-JT