CP Donations between characters

[Edward"Butcher"McMillan]

Ok, as this has now seemed to become a semi common occurrence and for the longest so many have gotten away with the excuse that it "Wasn't Written down." It's now written down.

Just in case you were curious about sending CP to help others out, that is totally fine so long as they are on the same side of the war as you are. For example it is totally fine to send CP from your American Character to a friend's Soviet character, or even your own Soviet character, same for a Commonwealth character as well.

However if you have an Allied character and an Axis character, even though they are both your creations, you are not allowed to send CP between them. This is technically Treason as you are helping the enemy forces.

If caught doing so the CP must be sent back, I feel a stiff warning is not to much to institute, not to mention your superiors will handle such actions as they see fit as well IC.

Should you have any questions or comments about this please feel free to post them below just in case someone else is thinking the exact same thing and I or another staff member will set about getting an answer posted as soon as we can.

-JT

[PuNk! ™]

I just want to say, this is an official rule as of now and if you can't see why it should be a rule, then allow me to develop on the following (expanding on JT's post):

• Why is it seen as treason?
  - To start with, do you belong to a division? Have you used that division's resources? Infantry, vehicles or artillery perhaps? Regardless whether you've used the division's resources to aide yourself in a battle, your name is on the roster of that given division and therefore you serve under the leadership of that national flag and command.
  
  Let's put it into perspective a little; you win a battle, you used borrowed units from your division, perhaps some artillery and even fought with a divisional member. Then you suddenly transfer your winnings to your opposing nationality account, to benefit an enemy division (whether you own it or not) or your other character's equipment. Either-way, can you see how this would be seen as treason? Disheartening to your division.
  
  
• Punishments?
  - If caught transferring CP between enemy accounts (including other friendly enemy accounts borrowing CP), you may find yourself losing that amount of CP transferred and numerous other penalties, spanning from:
  
  - Your divisional commander may court-martial you for treason, leading to demotions, possible execution in severe cases or simply being imprisoned (character ban from role playing - other than the prison area/s themselves) or simply being removed from the division. Numerous punishments could be taken.
  
  - If continuous breaking of this rule occurs, then staff action may be taken more seriously to the offender's account. One of which may result in the banning of earning any CP, at all.
  

I do take this rule seriously and JT's right for putting it into wording here. As said above, any questions may be answered below.
~Danny

[Nathan Whyte]

I have a question about this rule. If CP is given for an OOC purpose (birthday cake, raffle, payment for a service, etc), can this be transferred between accounts? Also, if you were paying somebody for a service, would you be able to pay it to an account on the other side?

[∬: Erik Schneider]

I don't see how you would be able to transfer CP won from a raffle, seeing as you enter the raffle on one of your accounts. You make the decision when you sign up whether or not you want to the CP to go to an Axis or Allied character of yours.

And by payment of a service, I will assume you mean something along the lines of an engineer repairing a weapon or a vehicle? It wouldn't make much sense to pay this to an account on the other side, as it would still be treason. It should be paid to the person making the repair. I.E. an Axis member has the engineer cert and repairs the vehicle, he should be paid for it not his allied character.

Birthday cake, I'm not too sure about. I always figured they were just given to your initial account, so perhaps it would just be best the CP is spent there?

[Nathan Whyte]

With service, I meant an OOC service, so if I was to make a map (yeah right) and somebody was to pay me for that.

[∬: Erik Schneider]

An interesting point. But you would still be donating CP across enemy lines and therefore, such would probably not be allowed. As it's still an Axis character putting CP in the hands of an Allied character, or vice versa.

[∬: Rafael Z. Wolfram]

I don't see how members can't earn extra pennies through a means of creating maps, signatures or even performing other OOC services on the website. Don't the staff get (so I've heard) bonuses for moderating and performing duties on the website? I know Punk, admin, has no allegiance to either side of the war on this site (cleverly with his staff account ), but some could raise the argument that paying the staff would be deemed as unfair.

That, per-say, there should be X-Amount of Allied staff and Axis staff, yet they're paid whatever their allegiance, for their services. I say paid, but from what I've heard, bonuses or something. Same as payment really. I would guess?

As for mapmakers and signature makers accepting donations, I don't think is illegal. Could be seen as a loophole for smuggling CP over to the opposite side of the wire, bit of IO laundering, but I would have no problem paying whomever for an OOC service; Allied or not. To be fair, anyone who does contribute to donating for any services, is really just pocket money. A few CP, should it be any greater, I'm sure the Gestapo staff would pick up on it and most probably have their reasons to void such a transaction for the reason of treason.

Personally, I see no problem with members being paid for doing something off their own back. Have members not been paid for suggestions in the past? As well as other minor duties on the website? What's so wrong with a simple member gratifying another member for performing a service for them?

If staff have big qualms over OOC service transactions, then perhaps it should be deemed that neutral character members are only allowed to perform such OOC duties - as silly as it may be. No offence to Addie, but doesn't she host competitions and pay members through a means of her own CP to fund a prize fund? Would other ordinary soldier-orientated members not be able to do such a prize host for themselves? It seems silly not to allow members to earn CP through a donation method of performing an expertise out of the box here. After all, when sending a transaction, you are donating.

- Raf

[Leeroy Atherton]

No offence taken, Raf. And, if everyone's concerned about transactions to each side, why not just have the artists give to whatever side they're on? Axis-roleplaying members make Axis siggies and raffles, Allied-roleplaying members make Allied siggies and raffles, and neutrals can such for both sides. In that scenario, it's a win-win.

[Edward"Butcher"McMillan]

I personally don't see an issue with sending a bit of CP to someone that made you a siggy or a map...course I also don't recall anyone paying for a map since I've been around, as far as raffles, you wanna put up your own CP to hold one, feel free, so long as it's legit I see no issues.

-JT