Post by ∬: Erhard Strumfelder on Feb 26, 2009 20:11:25 GMT
Okay, the problem is quite simple. Wolfram will suffer a drop after this whole thing. He can either prevent the drop, or use the momentum to come back up. For example, what about the resistance men which he executes have been plauguing the area for a while, and he has happened to remove of them without knowing. Of course, the high command don't realise this.
Secondly, how about the High Command knew and predicted the train would be attacked. A battalion of men being moved by train is an great target for the Soviets, so they placed Wolfram in command, and with his high success rate thought he would repel the attackers and dig up some leads. They didn't inform Wolfram so he wouldn't skip the train and what not. In the end, their plan backfired, but it is the bloke who came up with the idea who gets the axe, not Wolfram. After all, if they think him dead after the failed radio transmission, they've just lost a bloody good soldier just for an experiment.
Victories: 4 / Units Killed: 14 / Units Wounded: 9 / Units Captured: 2 / Promotions: 1 / Units Saved: 2 / Defeats: 1 / Men Lost: 12
Very valid points Strumfelder. Looking back, I must seem like a complete party pooper (Oi! Don't say it, I know what you're thinking! I'm so not!), but as I stated, the divisional commanders have no member orientated superiors and so the staff become that backbone for them. Being the ones to hopefully home in on any good deeds they do, how well they perform, etc...
Same with normal members, the staff have the authority to promote, but I do like to keep the divisional commanders in control of this prime power. Gives them more of a clarification with what powers they have. Rather than just "running a division", they can promote, demote and etc - in corresspondance with their XOs and other COs in the division.
This is entirely down to Wolfram. If he's willing to damage his reputation some and attempt to knit it into being apart of the storyline, so he could perhaps make a bigger comeback? Is entirely his answer. I just wanted to forewarn him, everyone, that putting your character into a position of a large failure can effect your character.
So yeah, Strumfelder, your idea sounds rather good. I'm happy with it. Makes perfect sense and deter's Wolfram getting the chop from high command, of course, ego/reputation would be damaged slightly but I have a feeling Wolfram wanted that from what I've read. Quite openly wanting the prisoners to overrun the train? Never thought I'd see the day Wolfram would give into a defeat. I must admit, this storyline would progress immensly from it, rather than the train boringly making it safely to it's destination and blah blah blah. ~Danny
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Post by ∬: Rafael Z. Wolfram on Feb 27, 2009 2:09:03 GMT
Punk, tarnishing my reputation or respect doesn't really phase me, because I plan on bouncing back from this whole plot. Strumfelder seems to have my way of thinking. As he noted, I would use the momentum to swing completely back; You ever watched a Rocky movie Punk? Salvester is always beaten about in the first few rounds, but hits back towards the end and usually wins. It's like most common movies. The hero gets beaten down, but always comes back.
I would be using that method during this story and Strumfelder's ideas for being caught and picked up the Polish resistance, to then be beaten about and possibly executed on tape, ironically sounds fun. This would only add fuel to the fire for when either Strumfelder or JT, whoever's going to be the rescue party, turn up in the nick' of time.
I do see your reasoning for the demotion or loss of title side of things, but Strumfelder seems to have covered that area nicely and I think using his scheme could even have Wolfram getting an apology in the post. Lol. Either way, it doesn't bother me if my reputation was to be tarnished a little, but as for the demotion side of things, I think the whole storyline configured by Strumfelder would fit perfectly.
I even get the chance to wreak havoc on a whole town towards the end! Don't worry Strumfelder, you'd be getting a big piece of the pie too. This would be your scene to shine also. LOL, I'm guessing Luther and Felix would love to get a bit of revenge too, after being beaten about and coming to a close death.
Rhys/Vaalto, I would love for your characters to be involved, but I'm worried this plot is becoming very heavy now and I honestly ONLY wanted three main axis guys and any additional people taking part, to be leading a branch of the story themselves. In this case, Strumfelder and/or JT would be taking part in a few spin-off threads, before connecting up with Wolfram and co' towards the end properly.
Same with Heiko's Russian character, he'll be involved with Wolfram and co' for a brief while mid-way through, before connecting up with Strumfelder and/or JT along the lines somewhere.
Incorporating another two bodies will be slightly difficult, we already have the following: Main Characters: Wolfram, Luther & Felix (will be leading the main storyline)
Supporting Characters & Spin-Offs: Alkeav, Strumfelder, E.McMillan (these guys will be interconnecting with the main story)
First thread or two will have the three main characters in them. = 3 ~ Boarding the train with prisoners, get to talk to Luther/Felix and acquaint with the task at hand.
Following thread/s will have Alkeav joining in. = 4 ~ This would be where the train would stop at one of the stations for a refuel? Wolfram & Co. would stretch their legs, check up on prisoners, etc -- before departing again. The main fight COULD occur in this thread, if not, another thread would be created.
The Next thread will have the three main characters in them. = 3 // 5 ~ The main characters abandon the train with a few survivors, regrouping and aimlessly wandering across the Polish terrain in search of German aid or German occupied territory. The abandoned/blown out fuel dump or barracks mentioned by Strumfelder could be found in this thread - First radio communication made with the relief party further down the line. Strumfelder and/or JT could briefly take part in this thread, communicating back momentarily?
The Capture thread = 3 ~ Beaten, interrorgated and pushed about, the three main characters could face a rough night ahead........
WHILST this thread takes place, keeping us busy with something to do, the SPIN-OFF thread between Alkeav & Strum/JT could take place. Once that has finished, the final thread could begin.
Rescue: = 5 ~ Beaten and worn down, the three main characters could be paraded through the town-square, made to stand on a work bench, whilst their throats are tied with nooses from a nearby structure. Awaiting their death, Strumfelder/JT could make their entrance. The final scenes would embark from here...
That's just a run down of how I see this storyline going. Epic to say the least? Rhys and Vaalto, unless you guys could tie in your own storyline to this plot or had Strumfelder incorporate you guys, I don't think there would be much space. - Raf
Post by Edward"Butcher"McMillan on Feb 27, 2009 2:50:43 GMT
I only logged on to respond to this, I have a bachelor party to attend shortly.
Strum I think you and I could make the journey toward the rescue a pretty good thread. McMillan isn't German, I figure that is enough for you to hate him as well right ? So the two of us could put our differences aside to accomplish this task, as it is the rescue of our Commander. There would still be an unhappy feeling between us, but maybe we could see each other in a new light once we arrive where they are being kept and have no choice but to work together.
Rhys and Vaalto, unless you guys could tie in your own storyline to this plot or had Strumfelder incorporate you guys, I don't think there would be much space. - Raf
Ah, sure, I was just trying to muscle my way in. Maybe another time.
Post by ∬: Rafael Z. Wolfram on Feb 28, 2009 1:51:23 GMT
The following people will be involved in this plot, otherwise could you notify me immediately and a replacement or change of plan to the storyline will be made to replace that bodied member.
- Wolfram - Luther - Felix
- Alkeav
- Strumfelder - E.McMillan
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The gaps made between all the members, are due to their storyline travels. The top three will be together until the end, Alkeav will be between both parties, interconnecting midway somewhere and the bottom two will be interconnecting and remaining together within their threads until the end.
If Felix and Luther are happy, I can get a thread open by the end of the weekend or early next week. As Nathan quite humbly predicated. This first thread will be boarding the train and etc... Just a relaxed, casual paced thread. I would like this storyline to last the good part of a month, not just bish-bosh-bash and it's over in one single week, where members are impatient and eager to get started.
Get yourselves in other stories too, this won't be the only one going on and neither do I want to rush it, because some people are breatheing down our necks to hurry up. I hope that is understood? Post as frequent as you like, by all means, but just don't ruin the whole fun of this storyline because it's not moving fast. Alright everyone? I would appreciate that much.
Luther, Felix. I will attempt to get the first thread started very, very soon. - Raf
Post by ∬: Rafael Z. Wolfram on Mar 1, 2009 19:19:32 GMT
I will try and get something written up tonight or tomorrow and the posting should be fine. Myself, Felix and then you if you wanted it to remain that way. Strumfelder or JT, if you guys will be the relief party for the guard (and rescue party), maybe you two could start a small thread of your own?
Either now or after our first thread has been finished. Just showing your relationship together, what you're expecting when the train arrives in twenty-four hours time or something. It's not necessary, but if yous want to add to the plot a little more than just a few threads, this could be an optional one to get yous two started and used to role playing with one another. So when you are tracking down the train, you aren't a bit awkward or bumpy.
Just a thought. I should have this storyline up and running in the next day or so. - Raf
Unit Kills: 6 | Unit Losses: 1 Wins: 3 | Draws: 3 | Loses: 0
Wolfram, I've made you your new signature and edited the avatar for this episode. I know you was really eager to get them, so I decided to post them here and show you/everyone else a snippet of what you had in store for Wolfram to become. After what you told me in PMs regarding what you had in store for Wolfram, I think I'm going to enjoy reading this plot.
Sorry if this gives away anything you may have in store for the plot, but you did ask me to post them here as a teaser. Just hope it doesn't give away too much?
Enjoy; I haven't made a signature for anyone in months and I was more than happy to make the time to create this signature for you Wolfram, because you truly have been one of the inspirational members on this website. ~Danny
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Post by ∬: Rafael Z. Wolfram on Mar 2, 2009 2:32:39 GMT
I have three or more scenarios on how he will get the scar. Punk was informed of a couple, so he could make me such a great signature, but I held out one option that could still be used. I think quite a few people will enjoy seeing Wolfram being injured, I'm sure. Lol!
Vaalto, have you thought of a way to incorporate your character with this storyline yet? I know you and Askel wanted in with the plot, but it seems a bit heavy with what we already have planned. I can safely say, there will only be one thread maybe, with two members in. The rest will be three members plus throughout. So this storyline will move quite slowly as it is.
I'm never one for leaving a person out though and I've been thinking of ways to get yourself and Askel involved. The only real methods I can think off, is that myself and you two tie up a thread after the inital storyline perhaps? Wolfram may be in the hospital for a brief turn, so perhaps you could be assigned the duty to protect him for a day or two whilst he's recovering. Askel could come into the thread as a messenger, what that message may be, we can discuss later to either spice it up or otherwise.
That's just one thought I had on getting the two of you into the storyline. I know it's at the very end, but you would still be apart of it. Unless you truly can't come up with some sort of storyline to tie into the main plot, thick of it, I'm not sure how else to get yous into the plot without it being afterwards. - Raf
Unit Kills: 6 | Unit Losses: 1 Wins: 3 | Draws: 3 | Loses: 0